Episode #161

The Nerds discuss humans using brain waves to control animals, the short list of actors for Batman, The Flash coming to CW and more!

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  • Thespius

    So that I might respectfully repudiate Jeff’s comebacks about Efron in Star Wars: It’s contradictory to say that Efron isn’t too cute for Star Wars, only to assert that he’s too cute for Spiderman. There certainly are characters and films that need a physically powerful romantic overlay, but we need to move away from this notion that we only need to cast the prettiest people. Again, Efron’s moderate abilities aside, the marketing aura around him will hurt the relationship with the fan base that made Lucas’s mega-franchise what it is today. Casting Efron in Star Wars would be akin to bedazzling the title screen and having Bieber’s producers re-do the iconic opening theme. He’s a developing actor but lacks the right feel for the franchise. Overall feel from the internet community is luke-warm (get it?) at best. I don’t see it, and I’m not excited about it. I think there are innumerable other routes that they could go. We both know that Disney will attempt to turn this into another merchandising cash cow, but I’d like for this film to be as far from a “Bop Magazine” cover as possible. IF Efron is supposed to play Jacen Solo, I also am not sure that he has the chops to eventually go to the dark side. Efron’s casting alone enough to make me avoid the film? You’re right, probably not. However, if this is indicative of the overall route that Disney is taking this film (making it “popular” while neglecting elements that will make it a good film), I certainly will be bypassing its release. I grew up on Star Wars since I was a little kid, felt betrayed by the prequels, and may just be a little too much of a purist to see it tainted by obvious ploys to up ticket sales by attaching popular names. Will my one ticket matter? Of course not, but Hollywood is beginning to learn what happens to a franchise when it pisses off its core fans. Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney takes the film’s plot in a whole new direction and avoids the Expanded Universe entirely. I’m cautious about this film.

    On a side note about Hayden: His strongest films certainly are Shattered Glass and Life As A House, but both still play off the “emo” role that he plays so well. He’s still a mediocre actor; he just happened to fit both of those roles. Sarsgaard certainly deserves the credit he gets for “Glass”.

  • Jeff Budd

    He’s too handsome to play the part of Peter Parker. Peter should be more average looking. A son of either Luke or Han would be a handsome guy. As far as the acting… I’m not sure. I’m not convinced Zac is a bad actor. I honestly don’t know. I’ve seen Hairspray. That’s the only thing he’s in that I’ve actually seen and that performance tells us nothing about how he’ll be as a Jedi or even some unknown Star Wars character. I also think we should be careful in predicting which characters are in this film The twins and all that other stuff isn’t as guaranteed as fans may wish.

  • Thespius

    You’re right on Peter Parker, but I believe he’s too handsome to even
    play the son of Han Solo (since that’s the rumor). Harrison Ford always
    had rugged good looks; Efron is too “pretty boy” for that. I’ve seen
    clips of 17 Again and a good chunk of Hairspray. He’s certainly not
    atrocious, but I don’t think he has the depth or versatility that will
    be needed. I think the trend in “nerd” movies is the extreme focus on
    characters played by well-versed actors (some exceptions). A
    continuation of the Star Wars universe really shouldn’t take chances
    with mediocre actors. Certainly a strong script can make up for that,
    but Disney shouldn’t cut any corners–writing, acting, or
    directing–since they effectively have to rebuild the trust of fans
    after the prequels.

    I whole-heartedly agree with your caution
    about making predictions. I’m always really weird about the “official
    company” avoiding an expanded universe, though. They could certainly go a
    whole new path. This is a good and bad thing. By going a new path, they
    could effectively make an entirely new and engaging plotline (if done
    right). On the other hand, the alienation of the expanded universe could
    insult the people that worked so hard to continue to build the story.
    Most people want a mix of familiarity and surprise (Isn’t that the issue
    that you guys had with Whedon’s alteration to the Age of Ultron
    backstory?). I’d like to see them keep the characters, but allude to
    popular expanded universe storylines.

  • Jeff Budd

    My last argument for Zac as Han’s son then is that he gets his looks from the Skywalker side of his family The Skywalkers are pretty boys when they’re young.

  • Thespius

    Good argument, but I still don’t see it. Although the argument could be made about the “pretty boy” nature of the Skywalkers, I think that Jacen should take more of Han’s grittier look and Jaina could take more of the Skywalker appearance. Making them both too pretty makes “Solo” just a family name. Han’s son should be grittier, ultimately, and I don’t think that Efron brings that. The only way it could work is if Zac has incredible depth and truth as an actor; I just don’t believe he’s that talented to pull it off. The “Star Wars” name is legendary, so I guarantee there is a plethora of fantastic actors out there that can fill the role with both talent and physicality. Efron–in my mind–could never play the son of a nerfherder.